Posted on January 19, 2012 at 7:19 pm

When did Elie Wiesel arrive at Auschwitz? Could he have received the number A-7713?

By Carolyn Yeager
copyright 2012 carolyn yeager

Fact is–it’s a deliberately confusing story with two distinct versions. Originally,  he was too late to be assigned that number; in a newer rewrite,  he was right on time. Which would you believe?

Above: Hungarian transport arriving at Auschwitz-Birkenau in 1944. Notice the casual atmosphere, the inmate-workers in striped clothing (not wielding clubs), the non-threatening guards spotted here and there (without snarling dogs), and the crematorium chimney in the distance — which is not belching smoke and fire. 

UPDATE: (Jan. 30) It’s worth taking a closer look at the female deportees in the background who are accepting the arrival process in quite a different manner than what we always hear in the official stories of the Hungarian Jews. And from the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, I might add, which is a big pusher of the Hungarian Jewish “extermination.”  These women don’t look too much the worse for wear from their trip. Three of them are smiling, two are also waving to someone they know, perhaps the person in the lower left questioning the officer. How can they be so cheerful, you might ask? A good question.

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At the very end of my recent article The Truth About Night, I wrote:

My challenge: I welcome any native Polish Yiddish speaker/reader who is also fluent in English to prove me wrong about what I have written above by providing an honest, accurate translation of Un di Velt Hot Gesvign [And The World Remained Silent] into English so it can be compared with Night. Why hasn’t this already been done? It’s natural to be suspicious of what is kept hidden. Let’s put everything on the table so that the questions I have raised can be cleared up.

Though I had no real hope of that, I was most happily surprised when a gifted linguist using the name “Kladderadatsch” appeared on the Codoh Forum with a professional translation of a  section from the Yiddish book. You can go to that thread (begin on page 4 of “Is This the End of Elie Wiesel?”) to see all the translations he has posted there so far.  I have copied his last post/translation/analysis as the main element of this article, but first I want to give a short introductory comment.

When retranslating Night for its 2006 publication, Marion Wiesel (working with Elie and whoever else) made numerous changes in the wording of the original translation. An important, but hard-to-notice change was her rearrangement of the wording for the deportation dates of the Wiesel family. She connived to move their arrival date at Auschwtiz back two whole weeks. By doing so, she made it possible for young Eliezer to be given the registration number A-7713 on May 24, 1944, the day it was given out according to the transport records published by Randolph Braham1 and available at the Memorial Museum of Auschwitz-Birkenau. (More on Braham further down)

In the original LaNuit/Night published in 1958/60, and in Un di velt hot geshvign, published in 1956, the Wiesel family arrived at Auschwitz 3 days after  their departure on June 3, 1944, making it approximately June 6th, well after the registration numbers A-7712 and 7713 had already been assigned. Therefore, as the story was originally written, the going-on-15-year-old Eliezer Wiesel could not have been registered with that number.

The analysis by ‘Kladderadatsch’ posted on Friday, Jan. 13:

Dates.

According to Mattogno, citing microfilm records from the Auschwitz museum (“Liste der Judentransporte, Museum of Auschwitz-Birkenau, microfilm no. 727/27,” Mattogno’s footnote 15), the Auschwitz registration number A-7713 was assigned on May 24, 1944. In his article, Mattogno makes the case that this means Elie Wiesel could not have been assigned A-7713 because he would have arrived at Auschwitz after that date:

Elie Wiesel does not specify the date of his deportation to Auschwitz. His narrative starts, though, with reference to a specific date: “On the Saturday before Pentecost [“Shavuòth” in the Italian edition], in the spring sunshine, people strolled, carefree and unheeding, through the swarming streets.” (p.22-23). In 1944, this festival fell on 28 May 1944 [14], a Sunday. The day in question was thus 27 May. The first transport of Jews left Sighet on the following day, hence, on 28 May. “Then, at last, at one o’clock in the afternoon, came the signal to leave” (p.27). Elie Wiesel then speaks of “Monday” (p. 29), the dawn (p.29), the day after tomorrow (p. 29) saying, at the end, “Saturday, the day of rest, was chosen for our expulsion” (p. 33) He then speaks about the traditional Friday evening meal and goes on to say: «The following morning, we marched to the station […]» (p. 33, which means that the trip to Auschwitz began on Saturday, 3 June 1944.

The duration of the trip is not given, but transports from Hungary usually took three or four days to reach Auschwitz-Birkenau. Elie Wiesel spent the night at Birkenau and was moved to Auschwitz the following day where he was given the number A-7713, which was tattooed on his arm (p. 54). Yet, according to him, “it was a beautiful April day” (p. 51).

This schedule is pure invention. If he did leave Sighet on 3 June 1944 he could not have arrived at Auschwitz in April. Moreover, the ID number A-7713 was given out on 24 May, the day on which 2,000 Hungarian Jews were assigned the numbers A-5729 through A-7728 [15]. According to Randolph L. Braham, a Jewish transport left Máramarossziget on 20 May 1944.[16] Allowing four days for the journey, this was the transport of Lázár Wiesel who was assigned the ID number A-7713 precisely on 24 May 1944. But apparently, Elie Wiesel was unaware of all these things.

[15] Liste der Judentransporte, Museum of Auschwitz-Birkenau, microfilm no. 727/27.
[16] R.L. Braham, A Magyar Holocaust. Gondolat Budapest-Blackburn International Inc.,Wilmington, 1988, p. 514.

That seems pretty conclusive.

On the other hand, however, Carolyn Yeager’s article about the various Wiesel signatures makes the case that Wiesel must have been deported from Sighet on May 20, 1944:

In the “revised and updated” new translation of 2006, Wiesel gives his family’s date of deportation to the “small ghetto” as May 17, 1944. I arrive at this date because Wiesel writes that it was “some two weeks before Shavuot” (Shavuot fell on May 28 in 1944) that the deportation order was announced to his family and neighbors. [Remember, Sighet had 90,000 residents, at least one-third of them Jews, while Wiesel makes it sound like he lived in a little village.] Departures were to take place “street by street” starting the next day. That would be May 15. But the Wiesel family was scheduled to leave in the 3rd group, which left two days later, on May 17. After being marched to the “small ghetto,” they stayed there “a few days.” On a “Saturday,” they boarded trains.5 The 20th of May, 1944 was a Saturday.

If Mattogno is correct that “transports from Hungary usually took three or four days to reach Auschwitz-Birkenau,” which seems probable, and if Wiesel’s transport departed on May 20, then it’s entirely possible for him to have arrived on May 23, spent the night at Birkenau, and then been marched over to Auschwitz on May 24 to get his prisoner number, A-7713 . . . exactly like Wiesel has always said.2

Now I’m pretty sure Carolyn wasn’t looking to prove that Wiesel’s claim to number A-7713 is legitimate (her focus in the article is actually on discrepancies in various arrest dates in the later Buchenwald paperwork), but if her reconstruction of the deportation’s timing is correct, that’s what she’s done.

So who’s right, Mattogno or Yeager?

Both, probably. The problem, of course, is that Wiesel is a moving target. Mattogno is using the original edition of “Night,” as translated by Stella Rodway. And sure enough, in that version it says “On the Saturday before Pentecost . . . ” But the “revised and updated” 2006 translation, which Carolyn quotes in her article, says “Some two weeks before Shavuot.” Since Pentecost and Shavuot are the same thing (Rodway just uses the more familiar term for non-Jewish readers, “Pentecost” being the name of a Christian holiday as well), that means that we have two possibilities:

1) Saturday before Pentecost/Shavuot,

2) an unspecified date “some two weeks before.”

As Mattogno and Yeager both note, Shavuot was on May 28 in 1944 (it’s easy to check), a Sunday. So counting backwards, “the Saturday before Pentecost” (May 28) gives May 27, and “two weeks before” gives May 14. In one case, the dates make it impossible for Elie Wiesel to have been assigned A-7713, in the other, they line up perfectly.

 

ing of 1945?

Above Left: Original Night, 1960,  paperback. Right: Marion Wiesel’s 2006 new translation, recommended by Oprah Winfrey.

So here’s a situation where determining what the original text really says is important. Someone reading Mattogno’s article and then checking the most recent “revised and updated” edition of “Night” might just conclude that he’s dishonest–the text there doesn’t say “the Saturday before,” it says “some two weeks before.” Sheesh. And someone reading Carolyn’s article, with Mattogno’s in mind, might conclude that while she may start from the “correct” premises (again, according to the “revised and updated” version!), she really just shoots herself in the foot by proving that Wiesel left Sighet on May 20, exactly the right date for him to be on the transport recorded by Randolph Braham and to arrive in Auschwitz on May 24 to receive prisoner number A-7713. Is Mattogno lying? Can Carolyn not shoot straight?

Or could it just be that Wiesel is covering his tracks, sowing confusion among revisionists along the way?

“Un di Velt hot Geshwign,” p. 22:

Un azoy zenen teg farlofn, teg velkhe hobn aruntergerisn bleter fun kalendar un undz dernentert tsu yenem shwartsn shbth. Vos vet oyf eybik farbleybn in meyn zkhrwn, afilu ven ikh vel zeyn farmshpt tsu lebn bizn letstn tog fun ale teg, oyf der doziker tsby”wthdiker velt.

Geshen iz dos Shbth far Shbw”wth.

A friling-zun hot oysgegosn ir likht un varemkeyt iber der gorer velt un oykh iber geto. . . .

And so the days raced by, days which ripped away pages from the calendar and brought us nearer to that black Saturday [lit, black Sabbath]. Which will remain forever in my memory, even if I were condemned to live to the very last day of days on this deceiving world.

It happened Saturday [Sabbath] before Shavuot.

The springtime sun had spread its light and warmth over the whole world, and even over the ghetto. . . .

(Notice how he says he’ll never forget “that black Saturday” even if he was “condemned to live to the very last day of days.” I guess he might still mix the date up, though, right?)

Anyway, case closed? Well, there’s one last possibility. Jewish holidays are counted from the evening of the day before, and so maybe the Yiddish text is including Saturday, May 27 as part of Shavuot, thus making “Saturday before Shavuot” one week earlier, or May 20. But of course that still doesn’t fix the problem, since that date is just the starting point for the deportation process for the Jewish community: the Wiesel family isn’t relocated to the small ghetto until three days later, and not actually shipped out from Sighet until after several more. Which would mean, of course, that Elie Wiesel could not have been on the transport that left Sighet on May 20, and could not have arrived at Auschwitz by May 24 to receive prisoner number A-7713.

And somebody must have pointed that out to our friend Elie. So the whole thing gets wound backwards by two whole weeks. The text is quietly changed . . . and no one is supposed to notice.

Oh, and by the way, the original really does say “it was a beautiful April day”:

A sheyner April-tog iz es geven. A frilings-rich in der luft.

It was a beautiful April day. A scent of spring in the air.

“Un di Velt,” p. 83

Quietly changed, in 2006, to “It was a beautiful day in May.”

Do you suppose Elie reads Carlo Mattogno?

–end of post

Who is Randolph Braham and how credible is he?

Mattogno writes:Moreover, the ID number A-7713 was given out on 24 May, the day on which 2,000 Hungarian Jews were assigned the numbers A-5729 through A-7728 [15]. According to Randolph L. Braham, a Jewish transport left Máramarossziget on 20 May 1944.[16] Allowing four days (or three-cy) for the journey, this was the transport of Lázár Wiesel who was assigned the ID number A-7713 precisely on 24 May 1944. But apparently, Elie Wiesel was unaware of all these things.”

[15] Liste der Judentransporte, Museum of Auschwitz-Birkenau, microfilm no. 727/27.
[16] R.L. Braham, A Magyar Holocaust. Gondolat Budapest-Blackburn International Inc., Wilmington, 1988, p. 514.

Braham is a Jewish Hungarian historian whose magnum opus, according to Arthur Butz,  is his two-volume work The Politics of Genocide: The Holocaust in Hungary. Braham has written more on this subject than anyone else. The official story is that the entire Hungarian deportation program was carried out between May 15 and July 9, 1944. It started in Ruthenia (Carpatho-Ukraine, annexed from Slovakia) and northern Transylvania (annexed from Romania). The second location is where Sighet is found. A hundred thousand Jews remained in the hands of the Hungarians to be employed in labor battalions (in other words, were not deported).

The USHMM says this about him: Randolph L. Braham is Distinguished Professor Emeritus of Political Science and Director, Rosenthal Institute for Holocaust Studies, Graduate Center of the City University of New York, and Member, Academic Committee of the United States Holocaust Memorial Council. Publication of his two-volume work The Destruction of Hungarian Jewry: A Documentary Account (1963) distinguished Dr. Braham as a pioneer scholar in Holocaust Studies. He is coeditor (with Scott Miller) of The Nazis’ Last Victims: The Holocaust in Hungary (Wayne State University Press, published in association with the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, 1998) as well as author and editor of more than three dozen other works on the Holocaust in central and eastern Europe.

If Elie Wiesel is not prisoner #A-7713, then who is he and where was he between the spring of 1944 and the spring of 1945?

According to all available evidence, Elie Wiesel has falsely placed himself in the concentration camps Auschwitz I, II, III and Buchenwald by assuming the identity documents of Lazar Wiesel, born Sept. 4, 1913, as his own. This cannot be glossed over as a bureaucratic error because there are too many documents involved. Kenneth Waltzer, a professor of German history and Judaic Studies who has written about Elie Wiesel, has put forth this very explanation on this website and at Scrapbookpages Blog (although not on his own websites), but we haven’t heard a word from him in many months. He becomes quieter all the time.

It has been long remarked that Elie Wiesel’s book Night is fiction and does not accurately portray the camps wherein he claims to have been detained. This fictional story is based on a 245-page Yiddish book Un di velt hot geshvign (And the world remained silent), published in 1956 by a Yiddish publishing house in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Night, just 100 pages long, is a condensation of that book. The origins of Un di velt are not known at this time, but Elie Wiesel Cons The World will begin writing comparisons of the original and 2006 versions of Night – comparing them also with as much of  the true original Un di velt as we can get hold of. It’s still a very interesting journey we’re on, but the end cannot be far away.

Endnotes:

1. Randolph L. Braham, The Politics of Genocide: The Holocaust in Hungary, two vols. (Boulder, Colorado: East European Monographs, 1993 [revised edition]).

2.  In the original Night, it is actually the 2nd day after arrival that Wiesel writes he was tattooed. I will go into that in an upcoming article.

34 Comments to When did Elie Wiesel arrive at Auschwitz? Could he have received the number A-7713?

  1. by D. Van Zan

    On January 22, 2012 at 2:19 pm

    Excellent Scholarship.
    The picture is becoming clearer as this kind of inquiry proceeds. The picture of a massive fraud. Of “Elie Wiesel”, Of Auschwitz, and the truth about deportations and labor camps.
    Thank You.

     

  2. by S.W.P.

    On January 24, 2012 at 10:03 am

    In my youth I was lead to believe the Holocaust and all of it’s horrors.In my seasons of aging I find it all to be a myth.Why would one take the time to round up everyone,put them on trains,house them,feed them,give medical treatment only to then kill them.That cost defies the agenda.

     

  3. by Robert Schmidt

    On January 24, 2012 at 10:49 am

    After reading ALL the postings on this PROFESSIONAL research by Carolyn Yeager (the authority) on this charlatan Elie Wiesel, one can only come to a conclusion that the MAN and the forces that back him , WILL COME TO THE FORE AND SHOW …. THE REAL TRUTH.
    Thank you, Carolyn, it is due to INVESTIGATIVE journalists like you that we have ALL which to be VERY THANKFUL FOR .
    thank you

     

  4. by Carolyn

    On January 24, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    Thank you, Robert. Most thanks on this one goes to “Kladderadatsch” for translating skill and powers of observation. I’m delighted that he has come along and look forward to his further aid. Nothing like teamwork! With teamwork, we can accomplish our aims.

     

  5. by HHmmmmm

    On January 24, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    In the above photo there’s a woman in a white top (she is directly in line above the man bending over, without hat, in the right bottom corner of the photo) She appears and I repeat “appears”, to be SMILING AND WAVING at someone who is somewhere to the left and maybe behind the photographer

    It also appears to me that the striped inmates aren’t lacking in food, or been overworked either. . .none appear to be unnaturally skinny or cadaver-like, do they ???

     

  6. by Carolyn

    On January 26, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    HHmmm, the woman in white is indeed smiling and trying to get someone’s attention — maybe the man (or woman) in the lower left corner of the photo who seems to be asking a question of the German officer. This is quite a revealing picture, which is no doubt why we don’t see it often. Spending a little time studying it, as you have done, is rewarding … unless you’re only wanting to see snarling dogs.

    Also notice the German officers are not carrying guns, at least not holding them at the ready. Compare this to the silly drawings that were just recently dumped on us — purported to be “lost drawings done by a prisoner and found in a glass jar at Auschwitz” which show guards with rifles pointed at the arriving detainees who are well-dressed and dignified, including a little blonde-haired boy in a sailor suit!

     

  7. by nan

    On February 5, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    Bravo Carolyn

    You are a BRILLIANT Sherlock Holmes of TRUE history

     

  8. by Truthseeker

    On February 8, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    Looks like Oprah was conned yet again,thanks for exposing this guy

     

  9. by Jerzy Ulicki-Rek.

    On February 20, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Excellent work Carolyn.
    Sincere congratulations.

     

  10. by Drew

    On February 22, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    What Elie Wiesel was saying must have been true, becuae, he published Night before anyone had credible information to the Holocaust. Afterall, he published Night some 36 years before internet was invented, where most people will get their information. (comment truncated by CY)

     

  11. by Carolyn

    On February 23, 2012 at 9:46 am

    People didn’t get their information on the Internet then, it’s true. But people were still informed by other channels, though it may seem like the Dark Ages to you.
    How does it follow that Night “must be true” because people didn’t have credible information about the “Holocaust?” Hint: It doesn’t. When did credible information about the “Holocaust” become available? Only with the Internet?

    Credible information is hard to come by with or without the Internet. But it is available … like on this website.

     

  12. by Estee

    On March 8, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    How can you people say this?? The Nazis wanted people too know this happend this is why everyone was so organized! Every single photo, document, film is REAL. I myself am jewish and can not fathom when people speak these lies. 11.5 million people were not murdered so in 65 years others like you would say it never happend. When really you have no proof it never happend, the ONLY reason you are trying to find some way to make this stuff up is because you are such bigots. Get your facts straight! INNOCENT children, seniors, middle-aged, young adults etc… did not DIE and survive these horrible events, too be hated later.
    Do some real research.

     

  13. by Carolyn

    On March 9, 2012 at 9:09 am

    Estee: Thank you for writing and expressing your views. It is easy to reply to you because you have not done any research yourself nor provided one iota of “proof” for what you say. You obviously think that calling me (and those who comment here in agreement with me) a bigot and telling me to “get my facts straight” is enough. My facts are straight. What I write here is based on documents (all of which you say are real) and on common-sense reasoning. You know, like the ability to put two and two together and know it’s four.

    How do you know that “every single photo, document, film is REAL?” Some have been proven to be false, even photos that are enlarged as displays in major holocaust museums! How do you know “the Nazis wanted people to know this happened?” You don’t know that, you just read it somewhere or made it up. Official holocaust history–the kind you believe in–says the Nazis tried to keep what they were allegedly doing a secret, and they did succeed in keeping it a secret until April 1945.

    The most meaningful thing you say is “How can you people say this??” Are you implying you don’t think people should be “allowed” to say these things? If you, as a Jew, had your way, would it be illegal here, as it is in Europe? Is the search for truth not important?

    If you mean only that I/we are wrong, then you must present some evidence that my research is wrong. If you can do this, write again. But you can see from all the comments that this has never yet been done.

     

  14. by David

    On April 20, 2012 at 1:06 pm

    How is it you believe one holocaust survivor to justify your own beliefs. I just saw that you believe Primo on having to have a tattoo to survive in Aushwitz. Why? So that you can disapprove another survivor. It doesn’t make sense to me. And no not everyone got a tattoo. Do you think the people they killed immediately got a tattoo?

     

  15. by Carolyn

    On April 20, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    I don’t “believe” Primo, but use his quote that prisoners had to have a tattoo to get fed in Auschwitz as a contradiction to the idea of some that tattooing prisoners was not a policy at Auschwitz. The tattooing is not exactly a proven fact, but is reported by many who were there. My beef with Wiesel is that he says he has a tattoo (#A7713) but has never shown it to anyone. Further, he has nothing on his arm! Can’t you put two and two together?

    And David — No, I don’t believe people who were killed immediately got a tattoo. A silly question. But I also don’t believe that people were killed immediately, so it’s a moot question.

     

  16. by David

    On April 24, 2012 at 12:52 am

    I’ve felt that Weisel is a hypcrite and self-serving fraud for a long time. If he were genuine, he would be outraged at Israel’s assault on Palestinians over many decades and yet, not a word. Instead, his foundation looks to Africa for sympathetic cases that he is going to help. I am a Jew, a proud, self-hating Jew but Wiesel has been shamelessly sanctimonious for a long time, making the Holocaust (tragedy that it was) into a sacred event that nobody can question and that serves the big shots in Israel to bandy about whenever they uncover yet another anti-Semite in the world, as they always do.

    This is good, interesting work. Where is Weisel’s tattoo anyway? Sure, it’s blurred with time, but the ink would still be there and one or two numbers might be read.

     

  17. by Carolyn

    On April 24, 2012 at 9:10 am

    David — (This is a different David than the one who wrote about Primo Levi)

    Wiesel’s tattoo would not be so blurred that only one or two numbers might be read. There are many ex-inmates of Auschwitz with tattoos that are still clear. The idea that these tattoos fade away over time is false. It is perpetrated by those who want to use it as an explanation for why some people who claim they were there don’t have one. There are some reasons that some former inmates would not have them, but that’s not one of them.

    Keep in mind that Wiesel has felt compelled to say he has one, but refuses to show it. That in itself reveals him to be lying, let alone that photos show he doesn’t. Photographs don’t lie.

     

  18. by Gabriel

    On February 23, 2013 at 3:32 pm

    Carolyn, if I may ask, what are your intentions exactly? It looks like you’re not only trying to refute Elie Wiesel, but you’re trying to twist the history with a couple of fluff photos from who knows where, pointing out to a chimney NOT smoking burnt bodies at the time of the picture? Do you at least have a good laugh at yourself when you read your supporters comments? I’m not wasting my life on this, but maybe for the sake of everyone’s watching this, you might also want to upload to this blog the “real” documents the you’re stating have supported your research! If you can’t I would understand.. you are maybe to busy working on your next project: impugning Stalin.
    Thanks for reading this. No comment required.

     

  19. by david hume

    On February 27, 2014 at 8:02 am

    Elie Wiesel claims to have a tattoo, but no one has ever seen it. He claims a kapo whipped him 25 times, until Elie went unconscious. Has anyone seen the whip scars? Has any other inmate at Auschwitz ever remembered seeing Elie? Most people wear their victim wounds like a badge of courage. Elie is claiming to be modest? At a minimum, Elie himself creates a huge doubt as to whether he was ever in Auschwitz. Elie claims to have been in Auschwitz the last half of 1944. That’s when an uprising occurred, with one crematoria set on fire as women smuggled gun powder out to Jewish resisters. Elie never mentions it. Yet Elie says he was there. Or does this mean the story of women helping resisters was made up? Elie describes a touching, heart tugging scene as a kapo refuses to execute a boy. Has any other Holocaust survivor remembered this hanging? Even the fraudulent Benjimin Wilkomirski got another woman to help in his fraud. Has Elie ever gotten anyone, any other Auschwitz inmate survivor or guard to confirm what Elie wrote? Elie has made millions off his books and stories. Greed explains his motive. Franklin Roosevelt didn’t care about the Jews. He sent the St. Louis back to Europe. After the war, the war crimes of the Allies were so great, Stalin, Dresden, Cologne, Hamburg, Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, that the Allies needed an excuse to justify the war. Thus began the elevation of war propaganda into the Holocaust tale, as a way to justify all the dead and battles, caused by Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin. Americans liked believing they had fought for a decent cause, to prevent the Holocaust. How else distract attention away from Hiroshima and Nagasaki, away from Stalin’s crimes, away from firebombing of German and Japanese cities where we murdered millions of innocent civilians, women and children. We needed a fabricated crime by the Germans to even look ourselves in the mirror again. Elie Wiesel helped alleviate our lingering guilt. Harry Truman had trouble sleeping at night, but after recognizing Israel, he felt better. Mass murderers like to believe the murders had some justification, if only remotely and indirectly.

     

  20. by John Kim

    On December 2, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    You may make it as pretty as you want, but the men you see are still in jail uniforms, and are obviously being put in trains to some unknown location where they work. I don’t care if they are nicely fed, or treated fairly, they are still being deported from their homes, their families, and taken away their sense of freedom. That’s one of the most basic rights to humankind, freedom, and that is being stripped away from these Jews, because they were Jews. It’s cause of people like you, thousands of people both men, women, and children have their rights taken away from them. Next time please get YOUR facts right.

     

  21. by Carolyn

    On December 9, 2014 at 10:43 pm

    John Kim,
    You obviously don’t understand who’s who in the picture, and you have not read the article, or even the picture caption. So why are you commenting? Are you another Israeli Hasbara worker?

     

  22. by Ray Goodwin

    On December 7, 2015 at 12:18 pm

    Carolyn, thank you for your tenacity and dedication to righting wrongs. I’m sure the weasel and his crowd are frustrated with the bulldog that won’t let go of their pants legs! You are doing the one thing that scares them – drawing attention, in an intellectual way, to their fairy-tale money-making and sympathy eliciting SCAM. In such a fight as you are waging, attention to DETAIL is imperative. Thus the exact timing of the weasel’s arrival at Auschwitz is critical, and not mere “nit-picking,” as would be thought by the shallow minded dupes who oppose your research. As I’ve written many times before, these vampires (holohoax “eyewitnesses” and their backers) CANNOT stand the light of day (TRUTH). Legend has it that when exposed to the LIGHT of DAY, vampires howl like banshees, start to whither and crumble, and like the picture of Dorian Gray, expose as they disappear to dust, the wages of their lives of continual evil. THAT is what will happen to ALL these phony, lying, psychopaths who hate any and all things non-Jewish. Keep up the good work, Friend.
    Ray

     

  23. by Thomas

    On December 7, 2015 at 3:26 pm

    Hmmm…just because someone got their date of imprisonment wrong doesn’t make them a liar ?!? No doubt, there is a case for revisionism but there is no point in losing yourself in the nitty gritty, this is exactly the tit-for-tat the scum Wiesel is looking for !

     

  24. by Carolyn

    On December 7, 2015 at 7:54 pm

    “Date of imprisonment?” Is that all you think it’s about? “Losing myself in the nitty gritty?” What does that mean? “This is exactly what Wiesel is looking for?” For what reason is he looking for it? What would he do with it?

    Let me clarify for you, Thomas. Jewish scholarship claims the ID number A-7713 was given out at Auschwitz on 24 May, 1944, the day on which 2,000 Hungarian Jews were assigned the numbers A-5729 through A-7728.
    Elie Wiesel claims he wrote a book in Yiddish in 1954, Un di velt hot geshvign (And the world remained silent), published in 1956 in Argentina, in which he said that the Wiesel family arrived at Auschwitz on June 6, 1944. The author was very definite about it, remembering holy days that preceded it and marking off the days.
    What was in the Yiddish book was carried over to the much condensed La Nuit in 1958. Night is a direct translation from La Nuit. Thus for 45 years Wiesel didn’t see the need to change anything, nor did his sisters or other people from that period tell him he had it wrong (at least as far as we know).

    Enter wife Marion Wiesel. She pays attention to the criticisms and jokes about Night and studies the problem. She wants to re-translate it so she can fix many of these contradictions … the tattoo issue being just one. So she changes a number of dates and words so they will align with the official historiography. But the original translation, which exactly follows La Nuit and Un di velt hot geshwign, is still around and I hope always will be. It tells us that Elie Wiesel and his father could not have been given the numbers A7713 and A7712. Now put this together with our never seeing this number on his arm (in spite of his saying it is there!) and it becomes rather obvious that we’re dealing with a fraud. I believe that if Wiesel had the number tattooed on his arm, he would show it freely. But these numbers were given to two men named Wiesel who had different first names and birth dates than Elie and his Father. (According to the Yiddish book he claims to have written, he was always called Eliezer, never Lazar. Plus he would not have given “Locksmith” as his profession!)

    But you, Thomas, think we should consider the date an explainable “mistake” of memory and avoid the “nitty-gritty” analysis of it. I find that unfathomable for a truth-seeker, which you apparently are. Why do you want Elie Wiesel to be telling the truth about being in the camps? That’s my question for you. I hope you will answer it.

     

  25. by Thomas

    On December 8, 2015 at 3:44 am

    I see your point Carolyn and let me just say that it came across much better in your reply to me than in the original article above. Having said that I would like to thank you for your reply and apologise for any offence caused :)

     

  26. by Carolyn

    On December 8, 2015 at 8:58 am

    No offense taken Thomas, it is good to have an opportunity to clarify.
    I understand that people have a hard time following this. Most want, and need, things to be simple and because they have not spent the time and put the attention on it that I have, they can’t keep the whole picture in mind when looking at individual details. In my desire to be thorough, I might very easily distract from the main thread. They will think, as you did, “What’s the point?” But I am disappointed that you did not say why you don’t find this information compelling.

    I’m working on a bare-bones explanation for why Wiesel is a fraud, but the thing is he seems to be a lovable fraud in the public perception so getting people to care about it is the bigger job.

     

  27. by Desirae

    On December 9, 2015 at 10:59 pm

    Thank you so much for not being afraid of the Holocaust’machine’ & putting this information forth in a non-threatening and clear concise manner. I grew up hearing the “stories” of the holocaust and even had that horrible woman who “ate” her jewelry to hide it from the SS come to my school in order to guilt all of us into our place. Then as I grew up and began to think for myself I was amazed at all the tragedy the jewish people experience time and time again, until I read deeper and saw it for the load of nonsense it was…thank you for adding another layer to my argument when I refuse to feel guilty.

     

  28. by Carolyn

    On December 10, 2015 at 1:27 pm

    Thank you! Desirae. And congratulations on your intelligence. I just want to add that I doubt that “horrible woman who ate her jewelry” (Irene Zisblatt) ever saw any SS men, at least not up close. All these “survivors” (most did survive) tell tales about the SS that they have copied from earlier novels (as Elie Wiesel did), but the fact is the SS did not associate with the inmates much – that was the job of other inmates: Barracks leaders and capos.

     

  29. by cuoc song tai ireland

    On December 17, 2015 at 3:32 am

    I believe what you published made a great deal of sense.

    However, what about this? what if you added a little information? I ain’t saying your content is not good, but suppose
    you added something to maybe grab folk’s attention? I mean When did Elie
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    You could peek at Yahoo’s front page and watch how they create article headlines to get viewers to open the links.
    You might add a related video or a related pic or two to grab people excited about what you’ve got to say.

    Just my opinion, it would bring your posts a little livelier.

     

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